samhistory wrote:Admittedly this season has been poor, may be that we have been spoiled over the past few seasons and have been expecting too much, but all teams go through a transitional stage and the worst thing that a club can do is get rid of the manager when things aren't going great. Does anybody seriously believe that West Brom are stronger for having had 17 managers this century alone? Man Ure gave Ferguson the benefit of the doubt ( unfortunately ) when they weren't winning everything and the rest they say is history. Bill Shankly didn't break up his great side of the 60's until defeats to Derby, Man Ure & also to Watford in the cup in the 1969-70 season forced his hand, eventually leading to the sides that dominated the 70's & 80's. Patience is what's required, if we get through nearly 50 players by this stage next season, then serious questions will need to be put to Gary, but somehow i think he will have learned a lot from this season.
COYG
The only thing we've been "spoiled" with is the excellent cup runs,nobody can ever take that away from Hackett,it is his crowning achievement during his 11 year stint at Amblecote Sam and we all doff our cap at him for that.
However,i saw a post on here a few weeks ago from Dave W that was waxing lyrical about Stour being at "their highest ever playing level" but this is simply not true.
When i started watching Stour as a 12 year old back in 1974 we were in Southern League Division One North,it was a feeder league to the Southern Premier League which we all now know as the Conference,in effect Stour won what is now Conference North.
I've copied that league table from 1974 below,you'll notice that Burton,Cheltenham and Stevenage are now well established Football League teams and Kidderminster have been in the Football League,other sides in there at that time have spent time in the Conference Premier in recent years and a few others play Conf North/South,i accept a couple are defunct now and a few are with us at our present level.
1 Stourbridge (C) (P)League Premier Division
2 Burton Albion (P)
3 Cheltenham Town
4 AP Leamington
5 Enderby Town
6 Witney Town
7 Stevenage Athletic
8 Banbury United
9 King's Lynn
10 Kidderminster Harriers
11 Merthyr Tydfil
12 Redditch United
13 Bromsgrove Rovers
14 Bedworth United
15 Tamworth
16 Corby Town
17 Bletchley Town
18 Barry Town
19 Bury Town
20 Gloucester City
21 Wellingborough Town
22 Dunstable Town
The level Stour found themselves at when our management team arrived was not Stour's natural level,we were the perennial "Big Club fallen on hard times" back in the Alliance days,once promotion could be allowed from there it wasn't going to take a lot to get us moving again.
My opinion is that our "natural level" is the Conference North/South BUT based on a population of 65,000 ( about the same as Premier League Burnley i think ) then there is no reason not to reach for Conference Prem or above.
My biggest issue over the last three seasons,an issue i've spoken with Gary and Andy P about on more than one occasion has been the reluctance of the club to throw some of the cup run money at "buying" some goals for the club.
Ben Mackey was a prime example,if he'd arrived in the October we'd have won the league that year in my opinion.
If we'd kept him for last season we'd have gone up but we wouldn't match the money Hemel were offering.
At the Ilkeston match away ( second match of this season ) i had a pre match chat with Gary and told him i thought he had the same problem as previous seasons and the same problem West Brom had,i said we were lacking a second striker of Benbow's quality but Gary disagreed and said he could "push Billingham further forward if required".
At this stage Benbow was still out and no comeback date was known because i asked the physic myself and weeks later Ben suffered his horror injury.
I think our golden chance has now passed for who knows how long.
What was required was the guts to go out and buy the final piece of what was a very,very good jigsaw but that time is now gone.
We only have three or four decent bits of jigsaw left now and it may be a battle to retain them after this season.
Nobody wanted it to end up like this,i think that there was a genuine wish by all at the club to get promotion but the cup money almost became a legacy that perhaps weighed them down in that it became very hard to spend because of the inevitable questions that would've been asked if the Mackey type longer term gamble had failed,yet the return to gates around 200 will in it's own way soon diminish whats left in the pot.
You're probably damned if you do and damned for sure if you don't!
I look at the players like Wurzel who have departed this season and even the likes of Rock and Dovey and i have to say that all three of them are still better players than many in our present squad and i really fear the loss of Leon,Billingham,Richards and even Canavan in the near future because it now feels like the whole playing fabric has been torn to shreds.
Maybe the return of a couple of the older faces wouldn't be a bad idea in the sort term or next season,we need to restore the Stourbridge identity.
I'm also struggling to see what the plan is with Morgan Parker,surely this lad deserves to be starting every game at the moment,the only way he's going to become "top draw" at this level is by playing and he has plenty to offer in my opinion.
Like Jack and others have said,non of us are enjoying whats happening,least of all the manager and chairman but it is right for fan's to challenge decisions,i've tried to be analytical and not slag off because that just causes bad feeling and in truth everyone involved has had the best of intentions,i just wish we'd been braver with the pot of gold and i suspect those in control might admit the same to themselves.